Author of the Week – Ginn Hale

On the blog today is Ginn Hale who achieved phenomenal acclaim with her very first book, Wicked Gentlemen. Ginn’s success parallels that of her publisher, Blind Eye Books, a very small print publisher which hit the jackpot when it signed Ginn. I’ll try to find out which came first – the chicken or the egg. I had heard a lot of buzz about the book and I kept hoping that it wasn’t all hot air because I had been disappointed many times before by huge build-ups about new books which I hated when I read them. Wicked Gentlemen (reviewed here) lived up to everything that was said about it and more, and in fact it was one of my Top Ten books of 2008. Now I’m trying to go behind the success of her first book to find out what’s next for Ginn Hale.

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Hi Ginn and welcome. I read an interview you did with Blind Eye Books which seemed to indicate that you singlehandedly put them on the map. Can you tell us how that came about?

Hello! Thanks for taking the time to talk to me. Hmm…as for putting Blind Eye Books on the map, I think it went the other way around. Before they came along I was just shuffling around with a stained, and crumpled wad of papers that no one would have picked up to put in the trash much less stopped to read. Honestly, I was just lucky that Wicked Gentlemen was so well received, and that Nicole Kimberling and Melissa Miller at Blind Eye Books knew it would be.

What would you like to tell the fans about Ginn Hale, author?

Well, Ginn Hale, author, isn’t all that interesting. (I’m probably not supposed to say that but I hate to be dishonest or mislead anyone about the thrilling lifestyle of an author.) And in any case I tend not to think of readers as “my fans”. In a way they are my collaborators, because a reader brings so much to the work when they read it. Unlike watching a film, where the audience is presented with sound and visuals and is often told what to feel through the persistent emotional strains of a soundtrack, reading a book demands a very active imagination.

Readers who have enjoyed my book have themselves to thank to a great extent; they cast the characters, heard their voices and filled in a whole world from just a few words. I guess I’m trying to say that who Ginn Hale is isn’t all that important. I do produce the writing, but on my own all I have are sheets of paper covered in small black letters. My novels and short stories only come alive in the minds of readers and each of them brings their own biography and history to the words I’ve written. Their lives fill the book as much as mine does, and so to a great extent the only thing readers need to know about Ginn Hale are the words I’ve written and whether they want to keep reading them or not… uhm also I’m terribly boring.

You’ve only recently been published, what’s the best part? What’s the worst? Is it as fun you thought it would be?

The best part of being published has been discovering how kind and generous other people can be. Honestly, I never put much stock in human goodness but when Wicked Gentlemen came out, readers and even other authors — Josh Lanyon, Marjorie M. Liu and Lynn Flewelling to name just a few– went out of their way to recommend, review and share the book. I was really touched and I still feel incredibly thankful for that. You mentioned being put on the map earlier; that only happened for me because some very generous readers, writers and reviewers made it happen.(Yourself included, Jessewave!)

The worst part of being published is knowing that at some point I will disappoint a reader, maybe a lot of readers, after they have done so much for me. The problem is that I like to experiment with worlds, plots and characters. I refuse to think about marketability or appeal when I’m writing; I just create. Sometimes the results are good and other times…ugh, terrible drivel or very, very weird stuff. (I once wrote a time travel story that centered entirely on altering the history of a monkey named Groovemiester.) I’m always shooting for something as interesting as the taste of black pepper ice cream: sweet, strange and spicy. But I know that someday I’m going to produce the literary equivalent to a taco smoothie. I can only hope that I or a very honest editor will have the sense to stop me from sharing any taco smoothies with the world.

I have to say that being published has been much more fun than I expected. For the longest time I was afraid that if I became a published author I would have to get serious– stop telling the stories I enjoyed and focus on sales and demographics. But once Wicked Gentlemen came out I realized that publication couldn’t change who I was or what I wrote. I’m not doing this to make money or to become famous; I just like telling stories and I will continue to do that whether I’m published or not.

Was Wicked Gentlemen the first book that you wrote? If not, what was it and has it been published?

I completed two novels (let’s call them Taco Smoothie and Taco Smoothie 2) before I wrote Wicked Gentlemen. Thankfully I had the good sense not to publish either. They were very much learning exercises…and I’m still learning.

Did you always want to write? If not, what did you want to be when you grew up other than a Firefighter? 🙂

As a kid I had real problems answering, “what do you want to be when you grow up”, because I pretty much wanted to be what I was, but taller and with a shark teeth. That’s mostly come true for me, except the being taller and having shark teeth part. In all seriousness, I’ve always had a strong drive to tell stories and entertain–some say annoy– other people. I’ve always shied away from thinking of my creativity as a “profession”. It’s what I would be doing no matter what. Right now it makes a little money for me, but that could change and I’d still keep writing.

Wicked Gentlemen has achieved much success. Are you at all concerned that your next novel may not live up to the fans’ expectations which are somewhere in the stratosphere?

Of course! Failure is inevitable; it’s only knowing that that keeps me from worrying about it too much…otherwise I would never write anything again. 🙂

You won the Gaylactic Spectrum Award for your debut novel Wicked Gentlemen, beating out much better known authors. I really didn’t look at the characters as being gay, I was much more interested in the story and then noticed that they were doing more than collaborating on solving a crime. How did that happen? *g* How does winning this award make you feel, other than “Holy crap, I won and now I’m going to Disneyland?” 🙂

With Wicked Gentlemen I was just trying to write a good story. The characters are gay because I’m gay and it’s just easier for me to write what I know, especially when so much of my creative energy had to focus on creating a fantastical setting and history for the characters to move around in.

Winning the Spectrum Award made me feel shocked, honored and guilty because I knew that there were other authors just as deserving of the award. Steve Berman and Catherine Lundoff, (both of them finalists who’d spent the previous day showing me the ropes and keeping me company) were standing right up front in the crowd, clapping and cheering. Their generosity of spirit was so moving that I desperately wanted to do something worthy of all that goodwill. They inspired me to donate my cash prize to next year’s winner. After that, I felt elated, because I was doing my part to put another author up on the podium. Sorry to give such a long answer, I probably should have just said, “It was great!” (Do most authors run off at the mouth/ keyboard as badly as I do?)

What can you tell us about your other books that have been released since WG?

My novella, Feral Machines, was published in Tangle (Blind Eye Books). It’s a science fiction story about a biologist who, in trying to preserve a wildlife sanctuary becomes the owner of three synthetic life forms. He struggles with a decaying infrastructure, a psychotic co-worker and his growing attachment to one of the synthetics, whom he comes to know as a person and not just a machine. I drew a lot from my own experiences in the Yucatan as well as my crazy love of robots when I wrote this one.

Another novella, Touching Sparks, appears in the Hell Cop Anthology (Loose ID). The idea behind the anthology was that three of us (Astrid Amara, Nicole Kimberling and myself) would all write an Urban Fantasy story set in the same world and featuring a Sorcerer-Detective. We were constantly sending each other e-mails asking weird questions, swapping ideas and filling in details of the world. When we were done I was amazed that such good stories could come from so much fun. My contribution, Touching Sparks, follows a detective and his informant into an underworld of drug addiction, police corruption and blood sports, and because it’s a Loose ID publication the sex is pretty explicit.

In response to a question during another interview, you said that you wrote Wicked Gentlemen to entertain your friends. From what I read about you, living in the small city of Bellingham, Washington you seem like someone who would be more interested in writing traditional historical romances. Why make Belimai and Harper gay? Was it tough for you planning and writing their sexual escapades? What was the hardest part?

It’s odd that no one asks straight authors why they make their characters straight. I guess it’s just an assumed default. But as you mentioned I started writing to entertain myself and my friends, so I created characters that were based on who and what I knew. In fact my first short stories were almost too much of who I was and what I knew. The protagonists were all lesbians, like me. But I was WAY too close to the characters to let them be interesting. Half the time I was just writing soap-box speeches or creating the worst Mary Sues ever, (you know, brave, upstanding girls who just happened to be named Ginny and never did anything wrong, ever). Worst of all the protagonists I based on my fellow lesbians were just too darn sensible, smart and competent to get into any interesting trouble. *G*

After a couple of dull, dull adventures, (featuring Ginny Mc Goody-Perfect and her Super Responsible Squad), I decided that I needed to write characters who were a little distanced from myself so that I wouldn’t feel so self-conscious or self-aggrandizing when I wrote about them. But I still wanted my stories to represent my experiences and my community, so I began writing gay male characters. With them, I’ve found enough distance that I don’t catch myself thinking, “I can’t do that to her!” but the relationships and social dynamics are still ones that I instinctively understand.

The sexual escapades are not so much my strong point, (as far as writing about them goes, anyway). I spend a lot of time trying to get the right words, failing and flipping through dictionaries. (Anal:Sino-Tibetan language spoken by the Naga tribe in southeast Manipur.) With Wicked Gentlemen the sex wasn’t all that explicit and as one friend pointed out, you can change the he’s to she’s and it mostly works as a lesbian sex scene. (But that’s the great thing about oral sex, it works for everybody!)

The novella Touching Sparks and the novel Lord of the White Hell are more sexually explicit and have required research and detailed diagrams drawn up by friends with “hands-on experience”. *G* Through all the diagrams and textbooks and hours spent trying to figure out if penis is a better word than cock, or if dick is more in keeping with the tone of the character, I always try to keep in mind that though the equipment is different the experiences of ecstasy and love are universally human.

The word on the street is that you’re writing a sequel to your blockbuster Wicked Gentlemen. Is there something you can tell us about it? Is this going to be a series, or don’t you know as yet? Do you have a blurb?

Word on the street is correct! I usually work out the events that take place before and after the specific story I’m writing, not because I want to write a series but because I think it helps me to write characters who have histories and more importantly have futures they are striving for. So, while I never planned Wicked Gentlemen to have a sequel, a rough outline of the events of both Belimai’s and Harper’s lives has existed since I began the first novella. The working title is Lord Foster’s Devils. I’m terrible with blurbs but off the top of my head here’s what I can come up with:

“As unrest in the capitol escalates into violent riots, Belimai Sykes and William Harper are forced to return to confront old troubles and new enemies.

Other than a sequel to WG what else do you have coming up over the next 3 – 6 months?

Queerfiction just picked up my short story, Shy Hunter, for their QueerWolf anthology. Hell Cop 2 will be coming out from Loose ID and I’ve just completed an epic fantasy novel (Lord of the White Hell) which I hope will find a publisher this year. (There are two very raw sample chapters posted on my blog if anyone cares to have a look.)

I’ve also been approached about releasing another novel, (a huge time-travel fantasy titled The Rifter— not the one about the monkey), as a serial e-book… So aside from this interview I really shouldn’t be doing anything but writing every day for the next two years. heh…but seriously nothing but writing for years.

What advice, if any, do you have for aspiring authors?

Advice… Well, I imagine that most aspiring authors have already been told to write everyday, “kill their darlings”, follow guidelines and go out and live a little so that they have experiences to bring back to their writings. All the standard stuff. I guess the only thing I could add is that I’ve found that my writing is always better if I don’t think of it as a product or a tool for self-validation or even as a profession. I’m at my best when I treat a story as a gift for one or two particular people whom I care for and respect. That way I always strive to make the story interesting and individual but also polished and beautiful enough that someone would be proud to be the inspiration.

Tell us one fact about Ginn that you’ve never told anyone

Can I get back to you on this? I still have a few years before the statute of limitations is up.

Can you tell the fans something fun about Ginn?

I had no problem coming out as a lesbian but for years I tried to hide the fact that I hate the taste of chocolate. At birthday parties I was constantly switching other people’s empty plates for my dish of heaping chocolate cake. I dumped cups of coco into potted plants and dropped bonbons into other women’s purses like I was planting evidence on them. Finally the strain got to be too much and I had to admit to who I really was. (Most of the people closest to me already suspected.) Thankfully my friends, family and co-workers have been very supportive, going so far as to eat entire cakes, and pounds of chocolate bars in my stead.

Thank you so much Ginn and I’m looking forward to the further adventures of Belimai and Harper. I do appreciate you indulging me! You don’t like chocolate?

Ginn Hale was a delight to interview and I never imagined that she had such a great sense of humour. I’m sure you noticed how very adroitly she avoided one of my questions. “Expiration of the statute of limitations,” what heinous crime did she commit? Did she eat her pet rabbit? Speaking of which, I must hasten to bury my own evidence of being a carnivore. Kidding !!! Don’t send PETA after me, please.

I had a great time with Ginn and I hope that readers do as well and that this interview helped them to get a clearer picture of the wonderful woman behind the blockbuster, Wicked Gentlemen. And Ginn, the reason I asked the question “Why write about gay men?” is because this blog is almost 98% about gay men and M/M romances and my readers, most of whom are women, like to know why other women write about gay men. By the way I do ask writers of het romances (male and female) similar questions – I don’t interview them but I’m always curious to find out what they like about writing their particular genre.

Wave, I totally understand. It’s quite a common question for those of us who write minority characters — whether or not we come from that particular minority. I’ve just always fantasized about someone demanding that an ultra-straight author like Tom Clancy justify the total absence of gay characters in his books. The thought makes me laugh to myself. This might be because I usually picture Steven Colbert doing the interview and demanding, “Where have you hidden the homosexuals?!”

<!–[endif]–> I look forward to having Ginn back on the blog when Lord Foster’s Devils is released – I can’t wait to read it. And that’s a wrap.

Ginn Hale’s contact information

ginn@ginnhale.com
http://ginnhale.livejournal.com/
http://www.ginnhale.com/publications.html

34 comments

  • it’s just easier for me to write what I know

    I knew it!! So when you wrote that one scene when the guys..you know…how many times did you practice that to get it just right for the scene? 😛

    hours spent trying to figure out if penis is a better word than cock, or if dick is more in keeping with the tone of the character I think ding-ding is better. Maybe peepee.

    Fun interview, as always. Thanks for playing with the rabble. And me *g*.

  • Emmy
    I will leave the answers to your questions to the author. I just want to say that as usual you have hit the “high points” of the interview.*g*

  • Very nice interview.I always enjoy getting to know authors better. This book has been siting in the to be bought pile I think it might be time to pick it up.
    Thanks girls!

  • Great interview, very funny lady. I am a bit disconcerted about the chocolate thing though. 🙂 No questions but like Sarai, its nice getting to know a bit more about the people who write the books.

  • Hi Sarai & Tam
    One of the reasons I started this series and am continuing to do it is because of the positive comments from people like you. Other than promoting the author's work I try to get behind who they are and I hope that comes out in their interview.

  • Very nice interview, it’s always fun “getting to know” authors. I’ve not gotten the book yet, mainly because it’s in print, I’ll have to consider putting in on my TBB list.

  • Lily
    I’m having the hardest time reading print books now but whenever I find a “keeper” which Wicked Gentlemen is, I always buy the print version for my collection.

    Nikki Kimberling (she’s the editor for Blind Eye Books) said in her interview last week that the company was looking into electronic books but I’m not sure about the timing.

  • jessewave, thanks again! It was really fun to do the interview.

    I would like to assure Tam that those of us who don’t enjoy chocolate are just leaving more for those who do!

  • I don’t think Wicked Gentlemen will be coming out as an e-book right away.
    At least I haven’t signed a contract and I still hold the electronic rights, at this point, so that would have to be the first step.

    Nicole Kimberling (the editor at Blind Eye Books) has discussed e-books with me briefly and she did sound very supportive of them… though she was concerned that they seem to get pirated so often and so easily.

  • I’m still pondering Emeraldjaguar’s suggestion of using ding-ding and /or peepee. I had never before even heard the term ding-ding, but it does have a certain melodic quality and both would be easy to find rhymes for… hmm maybe i should start writing sex scenes in verse!

    “To se so proud and strong a ding-ding
    it made the young man’s heart sing.” *g*

    Is that Wordsworth I hear rolling in his grave?

  • I’m always shooting for something as interesting as the taste of black pepper ice cream: sweet, strange and spicy.

    I especially loved that line — and its so true of Ginn’s work. It’s magical stuff.

    Great interview!

  • Josh you are so kind… though my sex scenes in verse might make you withdraw all you’ve said. *g*

    Also black pepper ice cream is awesome!

  • Tam, do you mean you can’t wait to read a rhyming sex scene or have one, cause the latter might require a very special partner and maybe a rhyming dictionary.
    On the other hand it could make for a really funny kind of foreplay.
    Gives a whole new twist to the term couplet… “yeah, me and my babe are gonna have a night of hot, hot couplets!”

  • Wow, never thought of trying it in rhyme. I’m more of a free verse kind of girl. 🙂 But a rhyming dictionary would be useful in that case.

  • I think Chaucer got some pretty funny, racy stuff out of rhyme. You could save yourself the trouble of finding an Adult Rhyming Dictionary by memorizing a few passages from the Miller’s Tale… Or you could go the rap route… I can’t believe I’m encouraging this. *g*

  • Great interview. Wonderful comments. I may even have to break out of no-paranormals-for-me mode after this and consider picking up WG, although I’m like Lily in that I want it in ebook format. And like Wave, I’ll buy the print versions after I decide they’re keepers for me.

  • I can’t wait for Wicked Gentlemen 2 – but more importantly, I can’t wait to read the novel you’re working on now, Lord of the White Hell. That looks so amazing. And it has horses!
    (There’s a sample on her livejournal blog for those who are interested).

    Great interview.

  • Ginn
    I can’t believe you’re encouraging Tam.

    Lesley
    Thank you. Ginn was a terrific interviewee and as you can see, funny as well.

    Lynn
    I really loved WG because it was such an unusual story

  • Masterful interview as always, Wave.

    Ginn,

    wonderful intervew and I’m adding Wicked Gentlemen to my tbb list. I’m afraid to say I haven’t gotten it yet. (I just finished reading JL Langley’s The Englor Affair last night.) I’m way behind on reading the good books.

    I have read Hell Cops and will be eagerly awaiting the next book in that series.

    Congratulations on your well deserved sucess. 🙂

  • Thanks TA
    You have personal knowledge of how I get inside information *g* I did review WG on the blog if you want to check it out.

  • Hey Wave, great interview as always. Just to clarify: I’m not thinking of releasing “Wicked Gentlemen” as an ebook any time in the near future. The ebook I’ve decided to release is Ms. Hale’s, “The Rifter.” This book will be serialized into in ten parts and sold through allromance ebooks, release date TBA, though I’ll surely notify you when the time comes.

    “The Rifter” is a big gorgeous epic full of romance, adventure, battle and everything you’ve come to expect from Ms. Hale.

  • Nikki: Too bad about the ebook. I I’ll add WG to my TBB list and check every so often to see if it becomes available.

    TA: Wasn’t The Englor Affair wonderful?

  • Nikki
    Thanks for the kind words. I don’t believe I mentioned that you had indicated WG would be offered as an ebook during your interview. You had made a comment about looking into the possibility of ebooks in general, but you never gave dates or the books you were considering. I hope that clears this matter up.

    Looking forward to The Rifter. Is this going to be a series?

  • Terrific interview, Ginn and Wave. Although please tell me that the taco smoothie thing isn’t real. (I swear to God, Americans and their strange foods!)

    For those hesitating buying ‘WG’ I would really encourage you to do so – it is a fabulous read. (Scuse the pimping) GH does have an excerpt on her site if you’re interested in getting a taste.

    I think I better leave before I get all gushy and fan girly, but I will say… YAY for sequels to both ‘WG’ and ‘Hell Cop’! *happy dance*

  • Thanks for the endorsements, Kris! I promise I’ll do the best I can by both books.

    Also, Astrid, I promise there are more horses in Lord of the White Hell– but not in a creepy way.

    And since Nicole just announced that the Rifter will be going ahead as an e-book I guess I can say that yes it will be a series.

    10 books I think, (that will depend on the editing). But all the writing for all 10 books is done. So there shouldn’t be long delays between books.

  • So Ginn
    Is this like a scoop on my little blog? That your new book will be serialized and offered as an ebook? WOW! I feel like a reporter for one of the tabloids. *g*

  • Yes indeed!
    I just e-mailed Nicole to make sure that I wasn’t shooting my mouth off when I shouldn’t and she told me that she had wanted your blog to be the first place that the project was announced.

    The scoop is yours!

  • …though my sex scenes in verse might make you withdraw…

    Why did my eyes stop reading at this point?

    WG is phenomenal. The first paragraph alone is a dark jewel.

    Another exceptional interview, Wave!

  • Thanks KZ!

    And thanks to everyone who wrote in and put up with my goofy answers. But mostly a big thank you to wave for taking the time and effort to do all this. I had fun!

  • Ginn
    It was my pleasure and I, too, had a lot of fun reading your answers. Now every time I watch Steven Colbert I will think of you. *g*

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